This show includes a feature interview with Emily Wilson, the founder and head chef at Living Tree Foods. We discuss her background as an animal rights lawyer and her passion for affordable, delicious, and local vegan cheese products. We also hear a story from pattrice jones discussing her first time bringing ducks to Vine Sanctuary and the assumptions we make about non-human animals based on the narrative that animals are motivated by reproduction and survival, rather than love, eros, and community.