Featuring an interview with local activist Roy Sasano, who shares his thoughts in the aftermath of the first face-to-face conversation the Excelsior 4 activists had with a BCSPCA representative since the Meat the Victims event 18 months ago. We also discuss the new documentary from Shaun Monson about the killing of Regan Russell at Fearman’s pig slaughterhouse in Burlington, Ontario, and share facts about the numbat for World Numbat Day.